Sanders also said that the focus is "not one or two interviews, but on actual policy".
MI also has a high level of school of choice and charter schools, but school tests scores are not improving like they are in Florida, a point indicated by Stahl. While she has received very vocal criticism for her work, DeVos is succeeding with this agenda.
DeVos seemed unprepared to answer questions about what she has done to improve national education, and stumbled when CBS' Lesley Stahl pressed her on taking funding away from public schools.
But DeVos, a West Michigan native and billionaire philanthropist, faced tough questioning from Stahl about how choice has impacted students in traditional public schools, which are left with fewer dollars and resources when children leave to go elsewhere.
"Well, there are certainly lots of pockets where the students are doing well", DeVos retorted.
Lily Eskelsen García, president of the NEA, the teachers lobby, said last month that "bringing more guns into our schools does nothing to protect our students and educators from gun violence".
"Michigan schools need to do better", DeVos told Stahl.
"A gun-free zone to a maniac - because they're all cowards - a gun-free zone is, let's go in and let's attack, because bullets aren't coming back at us", Trump said during a February 22 listening session at the White House with teachers, students and parents.
"Have you seen the really bad schools?" "Have you tried to figure out what they're doing?"
'Maybe I should. Yes, ' DeVos responded.
While DeVos said she doesn't know whether the number of false rape accusations is equal to legitimate claims, statistics paint a clear picture. "And there are obviously problems in Detroit - huge problems in Detroit - but the charter schools are doing so much better than the pubic schools there, and I don't think it's fair to blame the problems we see in public schools on these other schools that are doing better'".
She reiterated that support Sunday night, in line with Trump's support for the idea: "It should be an option for schools to consider".
She then changed tack again, adding, "but for those who are capable, this is one solution that can and should be considered, but no one size fits all". But no one size fits all. DeVos went on to explain that arming teachers "should be an option" and that she feels a sense of urgency in the subject. She was ridiculed past year after suggesting at her confirmation hearing in the Senate that some schools needed guns to protect students from grizzly bears.
'The plan is a first step in a more lengthy process, ' she said. "I will stipulate that charter schools are doing better, but that is a frightful outcome for everybody involved".
"I can't say overall they've all gotten better", DeVos said.